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Bill Sandford

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2nd Degree Murder
« on: August 19, 2013, 10:36 PM »
Since the Toronto police officer who emptied his side arm into the teenager on the streetcar has now been charged with 2nd degree murder, I started wondering about the phone video of the incident.

Someone who shot such video 10 years ago would probably have made a few hundred dollars or maybe a grand from it. Now, as someone has already pointed out, it gets posted on you tube, and becomes pubic domain.

Did the guy who posted this  shooting video get anything for it at all, has he been asked to provide it to Toronto police or the SIU?

I haven't read anything about the guy behind the phone. What sort of story does he have to tell. Does he know he's being ripped off many times over.



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Re: 2nd Degree Murder
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2013, 11:01 PM »
I don't think it becomes public domain so much as it gets handled by news media as "fair use".

But it is a good question, I haven't seen the person behind the camera featured. Maybe there's a reason for that.


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Re: 2nd Degree Murder
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2013, 01:01 AM »
As Ken mentioned, it's not public domain but because it's on Youtube, anyone can view it and, if applicable, may  link to it and embed it on another site. But:

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Whether it's Fair Dealing (known as Fair Use in the USA) is debatable. If it is Fair Dealing then a lot of the content on one newspaper web site or broadcast on one TV news channel could be taken and reused by another newspaper or TV news channel. And how often do you see that? However, in this specific case, it may meet the requirements of Fair Dealing although some news outlets failed here.

At least two people and at least two security cameras recorded video of the shooting and several more people shot video after the fact. At least one of the people who captured the shooting has been interviewed by newspapers. I believe unedited video was sent to the SIU.


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